Miss Margaret Shippen, aged 16 or 17—watercolor copy of a pencil sketch by John André. After the British army left Philadelphia, General Benedict Arnold became military commander of the city. Soon after, “Peggy” became Mrs Benedict Arnold. There is, of course, much more to the story….
British accents of the past! Would Draco Malfoy’s dad have sounded like that in The Patriot? Would Ichabod Crane? Gretchen McCulloch will tell us.
In some interview, Tom Mison described what Ichabod’s :”real” accent would have been. A bit of a West Country sound, I believe. But the show decided to go with something close to his “regular” accent. The audience would have thought he sounded like a pirate, as well as looking like one!
Sleepy Hollow has inspired me to read up on the Revolution—and pre-Revolutionary history. David Hackett Fischer, in Albion’s Seed, describes how different parts of the original colonies were settled from different parts of the British Isles. So New England, Tidewater Virginia, Pennsylvania/New Jersey & the backcountry all showed folkways (including accent & vocabulary) that have endured & spread to other parts of the country. He also touches on how the Upper Class British speech was changing to RP just before the Revolution.
Extra Scene: TURN - Episode 1.03: “Of Cabbages and Kings”
Series creator Craig Silverstein shares his thoughts on this extra scene from Episode 103: “Abe returns home after passing his New York intel to Caleb. He’s energized from his trip, but Mary is tense and quiet. Abe wonders if she knows he’s been spying. Of course, he’s unaware that what she’s really upset about is the revelation that Abe was once engaged to Anna Strong, and never told her. If we have time, we always want to track how Abe deals with returning home.”
Perhaps Mary has discovered she’s a fictional character. Abraham was single at the time…
nurselaney asked: "So, you must be Annie." He said.
"That I am, but Anna to strange men, if you don’t mind." she said, bending down to gather the brown paper bundles she’d been sent to retrieve, a sly smile bowing her lips until her face had an almost fox-like quality.
"Then please allow me to make amends, Miss Anna. My name is Nathan, Nathan Hale to be exact. I’m here visiting some friends I was schooled with. Ben Tallmadge, and Abe Woodhull." he said, leaning comfortably against the post he’d tied his horse to and straightening what looked to be a very new hat.
"Then you look just as they described." Anna said, inclining her head in greeting, the packages firmly held in her arms.
"Learned, distinguished, and handsome, i’d hope." he teased, feeling the tiredness from his trip seeping away in this woman’s presence.
"No, like trouble." she said, the smile burnt into Nathan’s mind as she turned back to her father’s company.
Just the scene that we might see on that show. The Real Nathan Hale was already dead—hanged by the Brits for some awkward spy work. The Real Roberts (of the Rangers) helped capture him! But the show has no problem screwing with chronology
Years later, when John Andre asked Benjamin Tallmadge what might be his fate after being captured (more awkward spy work), Ben told him he’d probably be hanged, like his friend Nathan Hale. Will the show last long enough to show us the events of 1780? Alas, I’d love to see the brief Tallmadge/Andre relationship….
Turn turned a corner this week, at the expense of historical accuracy, but I think that’s for the best. While this show is based on real people and real events, it has to take liberties if it’s to become good drama rather than good dramatization. “Of Cabbage and Kings” galvanized the three childhood friends, Abe, Anna and Caleb, into a true spy unit, it raised the stakes for beleaguered Ben Tallmadge, and it fleshed out the Woodhull family in surprising and interesting ways. The fact that many of the war details seem to have occurred much earlier than the episode is set is only problematic if you’re using the show to study for your American History final, though it may annoy some of the show’s core history buff audience.
Accurate description is accurate: “Simcoe may look worse for wear—actually, he looks like a deranged drag queen—but he’s enjoying his front row seat to Ben’s declining standing in the eyes of his superior and his subordinates. Samuel Roukin’s showy performance is one of the show’s most consistently entertaining. He manages to be prissy and menacing at the same time.”
The events of the War are happening fairly on schedule. Except for the founding of the spy ring—Tallmadge didn’t do that until 1778, not 1776. He participated in the Battle of Long Island as an infantry man & became a dragoon late in the year. He was not running around in his golden helmet with General Scott & a bunch of ragged militia…
The Real Abe was single at the time & his father was not a Loyalist. Still, why couldn’t that fictional character explain why he remained loyal to the crown? Many did. No, he’s just out for the money.
Oh, and the presence of Hessians in Trenton was hardly a secret…
So I’ve been really curious about Turn.
Is it well-done? The last thing I want is another poorly written historical show. I just wanted your opinions on it before I started watching… uwu
As entertainment, it is ploddingly written & adorned with awkward CGI. There are a couple of interesting performances.
As history it’s woeful. I could see adding some “personal” details about the characters in the spy ring—about whom we know very little. But we see the ring being founded in 1776, not 1778. And it shows John Andre heading British intelligence in New York in 1776—not 1779. In the latest episode, we were informed that the “spies” had uncovered secret information—that Hessians were heading to Trenton! No doubt these “spies” will be responsible for Washington Crossing the Delaware on Christmas Day. Of course, everybody in the Jerseys knew where the occupation forces (Hessian & British) were stationed.
Watch for performances by Burn Gorman & J J Feild. And to catch small anachronisms, along with giant chronology errors. I’ll stay with Sleepy Hollow as the best alt.American.Revolution show—at least it’s well written & witty!
John André’s self portrait, drawn the night before his execution.
If it comported with the plan of these memoranda, and I could trust my feelings, I might enlarge greatly in anecdotes relating to this momentous event in our revolutionary war, and especially those which relate to this most accomplished young man. Some things relating to the detention of Andre, after he had been sent on to Gen. Arnold, are purposely omitted, and some confidential communications which took place, of a more private nature, serve rather to mark the ingenuous character of the man, than to require being noticed at this time. I will, however, remark that for the few days of intimate intercourse I had with him, which was from the time of his being brought back to our head-quarters to the day of his execution, I became so deeply attached to Major Andre, that I can remember no instance where my affections were so fully absorbed in any man. When I saw him swinging under the gibbet, it seemed for a time as if I could not support it. All the spectators seemed to be overwhelmed by the affecting spectacle, and many were suffused in tears. There did not appear to be one hardened or indifferent spectator in all the multitude.
(Tallmadge wrote the memoir of his Revolutionary War years near the end of his long life, for the benefit of his children & grandchildren. You may read it here).
okay mr gingrich, I understand you need a villain
but is john andre really the best choice?
this is the first time we see him; the fictional character on the british side (allen) has just impaled someone with a sword in a pitched battle (the paoli “massacre” actually):
Andre pressed the…
Ahem… You are complaining about something written by Newt Gingrich? Newt Gingrich?
Of course it’s wrong.
#selfportrait over “La Revolution Surrealist (no. 12)” (1929)
#selfieking #breton #buñuel #magritte #ernst #dali (at Exquisite NY Photo Booth’s)
You know the amazing thing about this song? It doesn’t even say whether the man “unwelcome there” was guilty of some current sin. It simply says he was “Judged by Man/And not by Jesus”.
Whether you find what happens next to be fantastical, if you believe in Jesus at all, you know He is coming soon, and when He comes, He’ll judge us all. Even those who take the Law into their own hands.
That’s the warning given in this song by The Stanley Brothers, “Let Me Walk, Lord, By Your Side”.
It’s Gospel Sunday